Pauljs I think you have a great idea there but it is a very big IF. There are programers in this forum who are capable of working on the code, I know of one in particular whos programming skills are at that level, but could we get enough people of this calibre to make it work. Also who do you know who is trustworthy enough to take on the monumental task of collecting the funds? Seven, Conan is taking nothing more to do with Bryce, I think he made that quite clear in his letter, but if he could give us a contact for someone in Coral management that would be a great help. I'll email him again and ask. As for letting him know there's more than a handful of users out here I think he knows that already, it's convincing the management of this fact that needs to be done. Have you checked out the other thread on this matter, "Attention: - No more Bryce", There are many people there trying to figure out what to do too. Catlin