Ok I didnt explain the extra point very well. The pure bryce point doesnt go towards the normal challenge voting. It's just tallied seperately at the end. The artist with the most pure bryce points would just get recognized with the other three winners as the "pure bryce" winner for the challenge. When you post your challenge entry you would state if it was pure bryce or not. lol Drac... not exactly what I had in mind. I think it should be a bit more. I think it should be no imported meshes AND no 2d picts AND no post. Any restrictions here wouldnt affect the normal challenge at all. It may be noone even enters a pure bryce scene for the challenge for a particular month. Seven and zanny... I hope the above explained it better. Everyone would still be in the running for 3,2 & 1 no matter if their work was pure bryce or not. Normal monthly Challenge. You wouldnt be entering two different challenges. Again, the pure bryce point doesnt go towards the normal voting. It's just a way to get four names up in lights. I guess it would even be possible for someone to get in the top three AND win the bryce only award too. For example, lets say the the above example vote turned out to be the winners, with vasquez getting the most pure bryce points, AgentSmith and clay would announce the four winners. Did that make any more sense? Blue