As a casual user of poser and some one who can't afford pixel logic, lightwave, max or any other high end program this news is no news for me. I've already invested $350 for P5 and was willing to invest a bit more (max $50) for high end version of the face room and better lightning. That would have made me happy.. I guess I'll have to wait to see what DAZ has to offer, because I certainly can't afford to buy lightwave to get some decent lighting... Vue might be an option.. but then again that's not the market they are after any more.. (the hobbyist,artist). Thank's for nothing...