I love P5. The only problem is I wish I could love all of it as much as I love the bits that work. And having been burnt as a pre-order customer who had to wait months after purchasing for a fix that would allow some of it to work even close to the way it should, I find the CL statement more amusing than believable. Here is my somewhat cynical take on the above. "In the restructure, staff had to be reduced. Affected by the cuts were some executive management team members, developers, testers and marketing staff. The cuts will not impact the ongoing support and sales of the Poser and other core product lines. Several former team members will be continuing as consultants to Curious Labs, contributing expertise in development, brand management, and operations." Yea, Kupa took it in the gut after defending the indefensible for months as valiantly as a lioness defends her cubs. Good luck, but watch your back Marc Keohane, Kupa's road could well await you. Cl kept a skeleton staff and got rid of of most of the people who could fix P5. Six months after its' release we are still waiting for fundamental elements of P5 to be fixed so they can work at all (e.g. hair collisions). Keohane said, "...... All together, 2003 promises enormous potential for Curious Labs and its customers." Yep there is Daz Studio, lots of disgruntled existing P5 customers, a totally tainted product image etc... Reading the above, I have this image in my mind of Saddam's Economic Minister announcing that 2003 promises to be a boom year. Question is who will be running Iraq or CL? "Poser on the Mac OS X Platform Also announced is that the release of Poser on the Mac OS X platform will be made available this June. It will be full-featured and will contain among other aspects, dynamic cloth and strand based hair, photo-based facial modeling and the innovative FireFly Renderer which enables smoothing of facets at render time, displacement mapping, 3D motion blur and depth of field." We had all of this for Windows and much of it still does not work properly. All the Mac users get to have the same fun we did 9 months later! Well share and share alike! "..development of Poser plug-ins for professional 3D applications.." Gosh! Was this not promised before the release of P5 last September. The promises and the big hype are all very familiar. We have been hearing them all over the many Poser Forums since before the release of P5. How about a little less hype and some hard detail on fix dates for P5 and some honesty to the thousands of customers who are still waiting for P5 to function properly. Then, and only then will I consider such PR Babble to be worth more than the gas-balloon it is written on. Yep you got it. One unhappy customer. STORM