Well, you can always create one shrub in Bryce and then rotate it to get different views. :-) And the 5.01 patch gives you real tree presets. Not that quasi-apple you get with the original 5. As to the viewpanes, I play with Rhino and love the way you can get the full-screen of a view by double clicking on the name of the view. Returning back is again done by a double click. Right click chooses the view. Very nice and consistent. BTW, the thread over there prompted me to download the demo of Vue. Okay, it has disabled saving. But why should it stop completely functioning after 30 days then? Bad E-on, bad! Take Maxon and Cinema 4D as your role models. No saving but you can play till kingdom come. I'd also like to rant about Net installation, but E-on did provide a complete download. :-)

-- erlik