Oh, I was less upset the minute I hit "Post Reply"...LOL. I got to vent ;o). I snap at my kids too. At least they can lock themselves in their room until I'm over it...hehehe. You really should consider getting the V3 male pack if you can afford it. It has an "Eyes Circular" morph in it that gives results I just can't get with the Head Morph Pack's "Eyes Round". Whereas eyes round pulls them in horizontally, eyes circular makes them rounder vertically, which was what I was really wanting :o). It has some other morphs that are not gender-specific that are really great too and adds to V3's versatility, such as for the brows. And I've also found that turning some of the dials to the negative gives really great results on some things :o). Laurie