Aye, I have a lot of faith in the Program itself, it's ridiculously powerful for it's price! The interface and the different labs offer a really intuitive and deep level of creativity, unlike most of the higher apps I've used which stress program knowledge instead of program exploration to develop techniques. I'm sure there are plenty of smaller, Meta-Creations sized companies out there that would be able to secure our Program. But I think we'd all love to see it back in it's creator's hands, at Pandromeda or otherwise. Far as I know, Doc Mojo is one of the only programmers who gives a shit enough to stop in and say what's on his mind, much less the only one to comment on any of MY images! (Thank you Sir!) So let's not get too depressed about it, either Bryce 6 comes out, or it doesn't. In the meantime, we'll all just keep learning and expanding our creativity in 5/4/3d(It Moves!), and if nothing else between now and Bryce 6, perhaps someone will write a plug for LW or Maia that lets us convert our scenes over...? Or a (probably illegal to even mention it, but...) third-party .br5 renderer that actually moves! We are, we make stuff, that is all...