AdSubtract off - no effect Allow Java with Norton - no effect No windows show at all. This is the 3rd or 4th European site that goes nowhere for me, the others are in FreeStuff Found the DAZ update. OK, so why is the update for Poser 5 have the Poser 4 number and the installer saying that it is for the Poser 4 version? The German version is 36b The English is 34b yet on the Poser 4 program The German update is 34b