Since I don't have Norton Net Security, I'm not much help with that. I do know he runs a lot of script on his site which may be where your problem lies. In my Tools, Internet Options under Microsoft VM, I don't have the Java Console checked either, but the JIT compiler whatever that is), is checked. Is Install on demand (other) in your internet options advanced tab checked? Under your security settings (Tools, Internet Options, Security Settings) what are you using? If Custom, click on the custom button and see if Java is checked. Under Microsoft VM my Java Persmissions are set to High Safety. Active Scripting and scripting of Java applets is enabled. I have no Active X stuff enabled, so he can't be using that.