big differences between the two in some instances tho, the untextured,untransmapped model looks pretty cool. But to get all those extra strands and such seen in reality, it is pretty much a requirement in the poser world to use transmapping. this is a hair style Im working on and its all transmapped. I just got started on it, so it has a long way to go until Im happy, but you could be able to understand that the raw render of transmapped hair is far superior that what would be achieved if it were just a texture with no transmap. :) luck BT