I know just how you feel, BillyGoat; when I got Bryce 3, I was totally confounded. Read the manual over and over, got Real World Bryce book, still clueless. The only thing that helped me was a friend who was a Brycer did online voice chat lessons with me for a couple of months, real basic. That was enough to get me started, at least to understand the interface. I think the Bryce interface is kind of like the Amapi interface; either you get it or you don't. In fact, I have several s/w proggies with confusing interfaces; most of them I've uninstalled, or just let them sit. I think Vue is easier to learn, myself. I installed it, and right away got the idea. But then, I had used Bryce for a couple of years, so was familiar with the concepts. I do find the atmosphere and material editors in Vue to be simplified, and I still find the DTE in Bryce to be very intimidating. I still don't get it! But like tradivoro, each package has it's strong points and weaknesses; I like both, but tend to use Vue more these days although I'm trying to get back to Bryce a bit. And I got to say the Poser import to Vue is a biggie for me.

Sgiathalaich