"Unreal II just came out" OHHH man I am on my way to get,I want the Editor...The thing with the editors is that if you use the standard textures that come with the game then your games will look like Unreal....So use your own maps and Materials. "The LOTR movies contained more Bryce than real mountains"Can you say this for sure?I have always been wondering about the first animation at Isengard where the camera pans down the tower then goes into the Crevasse... Anyways,time to go Frag something...