I just made an 'album' of all my Poser work (and a separate Bryce--which usually has Poser stuff too) with the work starting from beginning to now--I got Poser last Summer so started with P4. Though I'm far from one of the better artists here, my work with P4 woman did get progressively better. Then--when the Vicky model started in the pics, you could see a BIG difference--I used many different textures and morphs on P4--many photorealistic, but Vicky just has a 'different', more 'real' look (vertices do make a difference)--and with all the other work I've seen by the better artists here, I would have to say that she is definitely worth it. I haven't done much with P4 since I got her, frankly. Diane B