"While I agree that CL is in a no-win situation over Interlok for us dumbies who bought the early copies, they SHOULD have replaced the retail CD master copy now, so that they don't keep installing Interlok on the systems of new purchasers, should they not?" I agreed so much I repeated the whole statement :) I don't even care if they've still got stock because they over-estimated original supply. New custoemrs AT LEAST should have new CD's which simply do not contain Interlok (but if such a new CD were forced upon me by CL I wouldn't argue). "Don't have Norton firewall, but default-guy was reporting a problem with P5, and suggesting to not block fully - his message should still be in the SR-2 forum" I have Norton's firewall set to decide for itself what programs to block. I never see a problem with P5 and Norton clashing in any way (Internet Security 2003). Didn't see one when I was using 2002 either :)