Well, I hate to state the obvious, but they're not in business for the good of thier health.. If they don't make money, then Poser, like Bryce, is dead in the water. Corel have also dropped thier Linux distro too. Now none of this excuses the shoddy product we were sold on promises of milk and honey, but this is software and it is ever thus. Neverwinter Nights is up to patch 28, and that comes with caveats that modules made after patch 28, will not work with patch 27, etc. Welcome to life on th wild frontier. To the new girl I can only say "welcome" but if you're of a nervous disposition I'd keep your head down, we can be a fairly fractious crowd at the best of times, ask Kupa :) later jb