These mass downloaders would be ok if they just took a list of things you actually wanted, like you go there and think oh I'll have those 5 items, but what it does is take everything, from every page and soon nothing else can move. I got to admit I used one years ago when I got my first computer, but I didn't understand what they did until I was in my fav forum and they were talking about how our fav site might shut down because of this and I thought how awful until I realized that I was one of those awful people. Needless to say I have not used one since. Cat