How about we get a drop of perspective on how the other half live? That way we are wiser consumers. Most professionals in this business of animation and 3d purchase their products from companies such as Id8 Media. To go to Id8 and get an idea how much we tend to pay for something, head out to: http://www.id8media.com/ Now not all products made outside Poser are ripoffs price wise. Some are, sure. There are indeed the companies that charge 1000.00 a model, they tend to have as their customer base large production render farms and effects companies in Hollywood. Then there are the independent artists who provide an awful lot of what you see in shows such as Babylon 5, Star Trek, Ally McBeal, Zena the Warrior Princess, etc. They contract out almost all graphics to small time one man or 3 man shows... where do these independent artists buy to save money? Alot in fact go to Acuris. To check out the prices for Acuris works, go to: http://www.acuris.com/product.htm These may put you into some perspective here. An eye... 249.00 :) However... out of the same company, Acuris, comes the excellent CD collection 18 Perfect People. Acuris no longer seems to sell it directly, for that go back to ID8 again. 299.00 :) We are getting close to that now, arent we, for Vicki? She has alot in common with 18 Perfect, as indeed most of Zygotes models seem to do. When I first opened up Poser 4, took a look at the models and clothes, I could have SWORN on a stack of bibles I was seeing 18 Perfect, and the other excellent product out of Acuris, Mix and Match clothing and People. Zygote's prices are industry standard thus far, for the industry of independent artists. I do not find them exhorbitant. You would not believe the cost of the hardware, software, etc of the stuff they are using out there to model in. Overhead on a shop like that is massive. They bleed money. Hell my little shop bleeds money, and I do not go in for the big names in hardware and software Zygote does, instead confining myself to the low end of high end. Competition is good. The store we are making will give Zygote a run for their money. I believe Ayesha was as good a model as any Zygote have put out. I distributed her with props, clothes, textures, morphs, poses, faces, you name it. I am now working on another update pack for Ayesha. If I had chosen to sell Ayesha to you all, I would have asked literally and truly, for 1.00. That would then of course double up to 2.00 for the store charge ;) If each here who chose to take my free Ayesha had given me 1.00 I could pay my rent this month, and get that upgrade I desperately need for Lightwave 3d too ;P Maybe I lack ambition or something here... but for me, selling someone like Ayesha once a month to supplement my income a bit and offset the costs of keeping up the low end of high end is all I am after, not getting rich off you all, or even buying myself and SGI.