Gah, apparently that wasn't the problem... I can't even load a 4 meg obj file... Wtf? Is this something wrong with bryce or my computer? I've never had this problem before. I might have a virus or something, scanning now. Has anyone else encountered this problem. I tried using 3dwin to convert the file, but even that could not load it. I tried other files that i have been able to load in the past and got the same error.