The above image also had a custom head and neck morph. Here's a male head and neck morph, tested if the 'add BM' check box worked on off. Tested before. OK, back to my #%# Java assignment. Had to use DOS to do some of the work! Vote SUN, let's go back to the stone age! (The app is not the Java thing, i'm using VB6.0 for that) Staale