Jim, sure you are right, but let we live in our dream world, storm, me and some others. Don't scorn dreamers (come in the linux community to see what dreamers can do). Renderosity can go on with us (Bast you can add me to your stat donations 0 , but I hope to do...when I will be able to present a real thing and no a 1000e poser test:)) And in my dreams, I will nevertheless continue to buy zygote models. Traveler, I hate you : I will be obliged to buy your clothes set because of the renapdt textures :-)