Shadowblade - you own cats? we cant let your feline furrballs suffer, so a prize is on its way to you...interesting observation...dogs have owners, Cats have staff..... ;-) you do make it sound like we're peddling something dangerous and addictive, so as a quatumn physicist, is satisfaction quantifiable? It must be really, since happiness is something that Governments don't want us to have, so they give us religeon, tv, and external enemies to keep us distracted from the pursuit of it.... Dialyn - collaborator conjures up images of Vichy France circa 1942.. :-( conspirator on the other hand... :-) although we seem to be back in shady areas of life....we prefer perpetrators, but we all enjoy a good conspiracy theory, so another prize bites the dust :-) IM's on the way to you both in about 10 minutes when ive finished writing them :-) keep em coming.....plenty more to go yet....