Forum: Complaint & Debate


Subject: Over-worked, Under-paid, OVER-STRESSED....!!! (not for the squimish)

Jack D. Kammerer opened this issue on May 17, 2000 ยท 99 posts


Jack D. Kammerer posted Wed, 17 May 2000 at 3:58 PM

We have been running this web site for six months now. Six very LONG and TIRING months! In that time I have had to deal with allot of the daily headaches of running a very busy web forum that continues to grow in leaps and bounds. I would not have been able to do so without the help of the other Admin and Moderators here or without the help of my best friend and business partner Ed Arseneault. Running this web site has become a FULL TIME job for Ed and myself, we put in 17 + hours a day here, working hard so that you people have a place to come to, to interact, to share or to better your skills. We took something that was struggling and breathed NEW LIFE into it, made it bigger, better, not for ourselves but for YOU. When you needed something employeed in the software, along with Roy's (Fur's) help we saw to it that it was installed, changed or repaired. And we have done this all for FREE... because of our desire to bring this Community back together, to make it larger and to let it flourish. NONE of us have been paid for this. We DON'T get paid to do this. The only money we got from this place was $1,500.00 from LIPSinc who was nice enough to pay to have their banner put up on this site! We don't get paid from MetaCreations, Zygote, Kinetix, EdgeNet, BurstNet or any other company. We don't get SHIT from this place, except BILLS! It costs this Forum, just this ONE, this doesn't include Renderotica, a total of $1,200.00 a month or more to keep this site UP and on the Internet for YOU to come to. I don't have a job, Ed doesn't have a job, this forum has BECOME our FULL TIME job!! We have been paying our bills from our Life's Savings and 401k Plans cashed in, EdgeNet has also been absorbing the costs to keep this place here for YOU! A new server for Renderotica has been added to speed things up on both sites, which is costing us ANOTHER $1,200 a month!! WE HAVE NEVER ASKED ANYTHING FROM YOU, but to keep coming here, to keep sharing and to keep being a family, to share with us your thoughts on how to make this place better. THAT'S ALL!!! When we put up banner advertisements up on Renderotica to try and make money to help cover our costs, total money made from that STUPID idea... $79.00 in TWO MONTHS!!!!! Is Renderosity/Renderotica successful? Yes... but only for the USERS of it, not for the people that RUN it! And have any of us complained or sobbed about it to you? NO!! For the last FREAKING WEEK I have come to HATE this SITE! We work and work to try and make it better and all we have heard is a few "HEY, GOOD WORK" from a specific few (you know who you are and THANK YOU for it!!), to the hundred and fifty e-mail a day that I JUST GET, that doesn't count what Ed, Roy, Traveler and the others get, filled with whinning and complaints about this NEW STORE or anything that we try to do to make this Community better!! That doesn't include the people that try to hack into the Forum and stir up trouble here (you know who you are)! I aint asking you to kiss our asses, bow down and worship us and tell us "how great we are". I aint into having my ass shined or spit polished and I sure as fuck wouldn't want to take long hot showers till the wee morning hours with you... okay, well, maybe with some of you I would...ahem.... BUT, what I am asking from many of you to STOP and think for a moment the fucking work and costs that is involved with running this site for you.