WOW, all these posts. Thank you all for the information. I don't know where to begin. :) I am looking forward to using this and seeing what my twisted brain can come up with, well, it's not that twisted. It's good to see this much support amongst other users. As for using the pdf, it scalable, my eyes suck. I can increase the size of the text so I dont have to have my nose on the screen. Speaking of which some of the text in this program is difficult to read, but once I figure out what it does, I wont need the text. Thanks again, Renegade