Ok, Re: lack of funds and too long hours. Here are my thoughts for the brainstorming session. First of all, why can't we simply do this the same way the PBS stations do it? Have a "pledge drive" type of thing. I would be more than willing to either pay a reasonable membership fee (gawd knows if I can maintain a membership at Navworks and the MeshFactory as well as other places I would be happy to do the same here). Second idea: perhaps expand or re-vamp the current sponsorship program, allowing for a financial contribution from those of us who a) don't have websites or b) whose sites are not 3D or graphics related but who would like to be sponsors of this endeavor. That way, those who are financially able to contribute to this site and community can do so without costing those who don't have the money anything. Don't misunderstand me. The online store is an excellent idea and if the quality of the models continues to be as high as it is now (which I have no doubt will be the case) it will be a valuable asset towards defraying some of the costs of running this place. This is, bar none, the BEST 3D site I have seen. The wealth of information and assistance here is a valuable thing and I would hate to lose it. The freedom of expression allowed here is, in itself, worth keeping this place open. If this place were to close down I would have nowhere to go to exchange information and make what small contributions I make now other than a vast variety of sites, each dealing with a specific program. This is the ONLY site I am aware of that covers the majority of the software I use. Without Renderosity I would be forced to spend hours going from site to site, forum to forum. If there is anything - and I mean ANYTHING within my power that I can do to help keep this site going you have only to ask and it's done. Kate