Thanks Deecey and Traveler :) I didn't bother to read the "prequisites" for the M Boys :) Not sure what the P5 people use as I never use them! :) I think I recall one post here where someone had applied a vickie map on homely Penny and that worked! What the heck! I could try it....if it does....I've found a use for the little P5 critters! If not.....it's off to DAZ to spend some more money! :) Since you haven't released these little guys yet, I have some time to squirrel up some funds! :)