Whatever CL do, it is going to be really difficult to replace the heart that Kupa brought to Poser and to CL. Kupa and Larry were CL, now we must await something new. Knowing some of the people still there, I would say there is real hope, but everything will be different. Look at what Kupa brought from Maetacreations, and look what happend to Bryce when it went to Canada. Change happens, and Mark K has some really big shoes to fill. Lets all hope that they make it great again.