{I would rather see ... Curious Labs own and further develop Bryce,} Eeek - now you are getting desperate!!! {Bryce gives enough immediate visual results, that people don't get frustrated as quickly} Yep - that's exactly what enticed me in, and made the whole thing accessable. {Which makes me think that it wouldn't matter which other program I get involved with "This Forum" is still the best.} Try Cinema 4D and their forum! - I love Bryce for the same reasons everybody else does, and I also feared the higher end apps, until C4D! - plus their forum is full and quite active! :)

Adam Benton | www.kromekat.com