ernyoka...You'd be surprised. When I first started working on those poses, the guy I was doing them for sent me a bunch of links to newsgroups, sites, etc that are totally based on this fetish. The number of newsgroups and sites totally blew me away...just the links he sent me were over two pages long when I printed his email The pics posted in those groups were a really good source for reference material. And BTW... crowhat.... your attitude does suck! It's people like you that make people like me stop making items available for FREE and make you start PAYING for them. Ed