The modeling part of Bryce is difficult. A lot of people prefer to build a model in another software package and then import it to Bryce. Also, what you can't make a model do, you might be able to fake with the right kind of texture(s). 'Painting' a model properly has as much to do with the cartoon v photo look as the model itself and the lighting. I personally like the look of Bryce, but then I'm not one of those people who want to use computers to make photo-real pictures/film. Lin