<> Sadly, this latter seems to be what's happening to Willow's PFO site... Allie said: <<There are not 16,000 members of this site because they want to buy bbay products. They are here because of Freestuff.>> Negative. I have bought nothing from the store, because the few items I want are priced out of my current ability to afford, but neither the Free Stuff NOR the Store is a reason why I'm here, or why I continue to come - I found the Original Poser Forum back when it was a single, cohesive unite, years ago when looking for advice to get something (I don't remember what now) to work correctly (the manual for Poser 2 was incorrect on whatever point this was). I found help, and a bunch of strange, temperamental, but helpful people and stayed because of that. The free downloads were a bonus, but not a reason to come here nor to stay. I'll bet money I'm not alone in this.