Way to test if you've got the newest update: Look at the'Eye - Real' Morph on the Head. If you change it to 0 and it makes her eyes look like the normal Pupil/Iris config rather than anime eyes and they don't have ring around the Iris (a white or or pale ring through the middle of the iris), then everything is cool ;) You won't need the update ;) Hugs! Grins, now I'm not an expert with the Manikin usage, The people who used the V2-V3 conversion would be help on that one, Hokusai is just an incredible wizard at this stuff and was a real sweet heart to help me. He's been' officially dubbed Koshini's Crazy Uncle Nakagawa! Hugs the stuffing out of him if he's lurking here Thanks so much! Littlefox