I've posted questions in several of the other forums and can say I have gotten the most helpful responses here. I can also say that the techniques I have learned here I would not have learned on my own. Almost everything I am doing these days is a direct result of something from a pic, posting, or tutorial I discovered in this forum. AS and clay do indeed deserve kudos for running a good show here...but so do all those who participate in making this more of a community than just another bulletin board. ~~music fades in the background, screen fades to black~~