OK, i read now several messages. And i have to tell you and all other moderators, i feel really sad because i don't have realised that you make this wonderfull forum in your free-time and with your personel money. And sorry again, i have never said thank you but will it do right now: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK, AS ONLY WITH THIS I HAVE LEARNED SO MUCH IN SO SHORT TIME !!!! I see some possible solutions to bring back money to this site and in last consequence to the whole community: 1st) You have 15000 Members why not make some affiliate programms with Zygote, Amazon and others (As a remark, this brings not so much money) 2nd) Give us who can/want to pay for this great place a virtual member-prop which we can buy 3rd) My statement at opening-day of your shop was that i don't want make money with my creations, i stay to this statement with only one exception: I will make a prop for the online-store and sell it for only 1 or 2$ (So cheap that hopefully many users would buy it) and 100% of the money rest at renderosity to bring back a little bit of the cost's for this absolutely great place. I would be happy if you can accept this. THANKS AGAIN. Robert Egli from Switzerland alias SHARKEY