I thought whipping was restricted to Renderotica? The calender idea was tried by 3D Cafe(ONCE).That and CD's run the risk of having boxes of unsold merchandise lying around. If the pay site or endless series of quick fixes are undesirable, I'd suggest turning the store into something that would interest all types of CG artists.Maybe get friendly with the people at 3D Cafe and see how their store is working for them(and what mistakes they've made).Maybe we could be able to buy Poser 5 right from Renderosity. While most of the members here are Poser users first and formost, being too specialised isn't always good for commercial ventures. Not exactly a simple solution nor a quick one.Let the forums runs themselves a bit more and do some networking.Get some software salesmen drunk.Show them your guns.If you can get a few pennies out of Mimic I'm sure someone else has a few pennies for you. I wish I could come up with a stunning cure-all idea but this is about it.Nice idea,more work for you guys... Oh,and in my last post I was expecting attacks by the same cheapskates that opposed the store not from any of the Admins. Thanks Ed Alias (who secretly wishes he could make fun of a guy with an arse in the middle of his name but has seen Ed's guns and bulletproof vests are hard to find in Canada)