i could not really grasp anim8or, but, from the beginning...i used it to make morphs. amapi 4.15, and even 5.1 fully functioning can be obtained for free...ask at the amapi forum. that is the one that clicked for me....i got the free amapi 4.15...and, basically, understood concepts that had been eluding me. i use rhino, now....but, have not made anything for sale...just fun to make for myself. mac is right about time consumption. i'm lucky in that i have rhino at work, and, at home....so, can spend a good bit of time making my little frankenpoppis...although, both of my floppy drives, at home, and at work are acting up...i need to clean them even more, i think...so the frankenpoppis have been staying at work. (except for the home ones...staying at home.) i love modelling. when i post a picture that is all basically done by me...except for vicki....i feel very proud.