Here is something I should have added to my initial post. The 3D cafe sell products on behalf of producers, I am thinking of Marlin Textures, Dosch Textures (a German Compay), plugins for various programs etc., and there are many more companies out there that are desperatly seeking high level exposure for their products. These companies could be targetted and asked if they want to put their goods in your potential CG Store, which you could sell for a commission (for instance there are hundreds of commercial plugin makers (all small companies) for Photoshop, Max, Lightwave etc.) Since there is such a diverse range of needs for Poser (modelling, texturing, plug-in programs and even high-end video and web presentation programs) the sheer potential comprehensiveness of the range of goods in a CG store servicing all these needs would be an attraction for Computer Artists generally, thus increasing your membership and making your Store even more attractive as an outlet for retailers. Most software resellers and distributers make a high percentage out of such transactions. The normal markup in realworld retailing is 100% or more. On the web it may be similar. Being a middleman for such products has major advantages because of its long term potential. What is more, since it is not your main business (or purpose in life) you could offer far more attractive deals to the software companies than the people for whom middleman retailing or distribution is the main business, and also deliver significant reductions to customers at the other end (making your shop more attractive), while at the same time making a profit. It would mean of course that you would have to set up your own operation in terms of Credit Card clearence on payments, and you would probably have to get into the physical business of mailing out CDs (nobody is going to download 650Mbs of textures). However, if you can undercut the competition you are in business and you already have the main "attractor factor" in all of this, your huge and growing membership of 3D graphics artists. Prepare a fact sheet about this place, include the figures for visits, membership and the rest, show how this site has grown exponentially and project your future growth, and then go sell it, blitz all of them, sell and promote the hell out of this place, if one company bites the rest will feel they also have to, just to be competetive (in fact that could be the decisive factor in pulling in the rest). And if they will not cut you in for a percentage of sales as middlemen, be flexible and do as bloodsong suggested and charge a referrel fee or any other way of getting them in. And what have any of these companies to loose? Nothing. They already pay large fees to middlemen to sell and distribute their goods for them. If you look at the posts in the various forums there are plenty of Renderosity members that are thinking of buying plug-ins and high-end modelling programs. If even some of them were to buy their stuff through you, you would more than cover the costs of this site. STORM