Randy - Systems Engineer for the Seattle Times (press facility). That shot was taken in the computer room (shows about 15% of the room). I think I once explained the difference between a traditional S.E. and our dept (we deal with all the traditional stuff plus remote laser imaging, film processing, lithography, optical plate benders, robotics, press control systems, spread spectrum communications, material transport, blah blah blah). Michelle - Thank you, my dear. :D -=>Donald