I have those dials and I'm at a loss too. Yes, I believe the eyes are children to the head. I tried solving the problem with the Joint Editor and Hierarchy Editor and only partly acomplishing the aim. You know, the up/down function went totally wild and turned the eyes around, as if my figure was totally intoxicated:) Really. I solved that out in the Joint Editor. I thought that maybe there is a place in the programme where I can write down the position I want the eyes to take forever ever, amen! Anyway, thanks for the advice. Maybe I'll try out the 'new' dials again. Who knows, maybe it's 'material fatigue' (I work loooong hours on the figure and the computer dies, the memory is nearly out - the usual thing).