It's funny you should mention that, Allie. OF course, any chance you can get to defame the PFO is one you'll jump on in a second, so it doesn't surprise me. Would you all like to know what may have led to the removal of her post? I don't know myself, but I can speculate. She came in and asked questions. Now, the way she asked them was rather condescending (reminded me a little of ALLIE, te be honest). Still people answered. Rather than offer any sort of thanks, she just continued with questions, and we still continued with answers. Finally, she posted this: "What are you users doing with your software? Are you creating cartoons, doing web stuff, are just showing it to your kids? I've only seen one good production and it's the mpeg file on metacreations website." Now, on the one hand, it looks innocent enough. She wants to know what people are doing with the software. That's fine, however, the tone, in context with her other posts, is rather cold and condescending. I gather that her main interest is in animation, since she's a producer of a small time cable show. That's cool too, but the idea that came across with that "The only good productions..." bit was that everything else was crap. The replies seemed to indicate that, yet she never offered to clarify it. Those of us who are net veterens know that it's hard to convey emotion in cold text, so we sometimes HAVE to clarify. She didn't have to, of course, but it's good netiquette. It's sad to see that so many are blind to the good that lies in the PFO. Unfortunately, people tend to be sheep and will believe anything someone says, just because it sounds good. I'm not trying to cause trouble here, but I feel it's necessary to have at least one opposing POV in this thread. Take it or leave it, flame me if you will. krbtv, if you like it here and can get help, that's fine. By all means, stay. Just don't go basing your opinions on what other people say. Investigate for yourself. JonRD BTW, 20 virtual bucks says she won't reply to this thread.