Why dont people just learn to use both forums as the resources they are? Its time to end such vicious squabbling and move on. We are here to create, learn, and move on, and in and out, and back and forth. As artists, we owe it to ourselves to gain as much knowledge possible from any known source, provided its not detrimental. Whatever happened moons ago, belongs where it is, MOONS AGO! I will stand up and say right here, that I have never been ill treated in any way at the poserforum, and thats it! Renderosity has been my home for months, and granted me ample opportunity, to learn, to grow, to experience all kinds of art and opinions, and make some true friends. Its just so sad to see people squabble beneath mounds of bitterness. The internet is a huge playground. Have fun swinging. Syyd