The problem in the top image depends on how you cut the model up, it may just be the long hip problem poser has, if you remove IK and then zero Vicky and the problem goes away then thats most likely it....can you send me the obj and i can take a look and let you know where the problem is and if it needs it recut it and send it back, its easier to do that so you can see it than try to explain ;o)....Steve