heya; if you dont have the 'detatch polygons' thing on your menu, you have the wrong ray dream patch. (that is in the mfm, not in the main window, of course. :) ) you can find the right one if you go to the metacreations ftp site to browse it, not pick a product and hit 'go...' i cant remember if it's under ray dream or under poser, but the description should mention obj operation functionality or some such.