People please. We all know the score (well...most of us). A lot of us go to both places. We have eyes. We see who's doing what to whom. The recent events that happened on the Poser list is a prime example of who does what to whom. But this has nothing to do with being a forum member. You should not go to either of these forums because of the moderators. It's your fellow members that should be the deciding factor on where you hang out. ScottA