heh Ok,.. I was missing a step thanks sam,... I was just going to the section of pose where it talked bout morphs/inj's I didnt know/think to look under props ok,.. cool,.. it worked,.. and umm marco vv2k3 I mentioned was VV 2003 for vicki 1/2-3 just and just to be clear for future reference,.. the new way with vicky to be modified she has to have the ability to be modded injected into her? say I wanted to load a MT that I downloaded for vicki3 that changed her general shape,.. I would for instance click on inj all morphs then load the morph I wanted? Im not sure if Im saying clearly the way im thinking anyways,.. I got a general Idea of what I did wrong now,.. thanks for the Quick Response all of you,.. no more then 2mintues after posting I get helpful replys thank you :) :P Blarghd :P