the donation idea is beginning to grow on us. a simple passing of the hat. along with it, jack and i would also like to create a fund raiser, like they do for public TV and so forth. for various amounts, a thank you gift. NOTHING CHEESY of course. a donated morph or whatever. i know, that second part is unnecessay, but it is something jack and i wish to do. the kitty we collect will go overhead and to a small group of people behind the scenes who bust ass every day. The admins and moderators. Also, allow me to say that, the above is but ONE avenue, one idea we will implement. and the basis of the ideas we will implement will have factor(s) that also aid the community as well as pay bills and pay those who have volunteered and worked as admins and moderators here. ed