Radiosity, please keep us posted as you get more use out of poser (and vue). I'll pick up a copy, if I am confident it will work comparably well. I've heard good things about win4lin, but you can't try it out before you buy and I have no use for the programs they have tested it with and offer support for. I wonder if 9x emulation would be as unstable as really running it under 2k or xp? I have gotten to like being away from the old 9x crashes and memory problems. eric