Chad--one other problem that happened to me today (and seems related to other annoyances with the dress). I was making a demo of how to use a template to create a texture for the dress, and my final image was of Vicky with dress on--using the Zygote seated Vicky pose. The shoulders did explode in that so I went back to original and then reposed with the 'pondering' I believe--the one where she is semi seated but not with as an exaggerated shoulder pose. The hip portion of the dress sticks straight up and no matter what I tried, I couldn't remedy it. I had problems with the hip portion in the morphed long dress also, and with various poses in the short dress. The thighs seem to work normally, but not the hip portion. Diane B