You are right Nerd. I should have stated that more clearly. The fact is. When ever you remove the twist and or smoothing lines to accomplish this bending without warping things around it trick. You need to edit the FIRST instance of that body part as you scroll down through the .cr2 file. I always use the "find" function in a text editor to find them. And I forget to tell people that a lot of the time. The body part you are editing to do this. May be listed under another body part name first. Did I confuse everyone? ScottA