heyas; jim, the conforming/figure hair may have several groups to match the head/neck/chest, and especially if it has posable braids or tails. so yeah, they have groups :) oi: yes, you need a modeler to mirror an object. poser is not a modeler. now what are you guys doing? apply the flipped hair as a morph target to the original hair? hmmm. and the other morphs still work right? do the kozaburo 'right' and 'left' deals still go right and left, or do they go left and right now?