Cleaner is a program from Discreet (www.discreet.com) that is made for compressing video files, (animations included) into a variety of different file types, mostly for use on the Web, but also for other reasons, like compressing a QuickTime file into an MPEG-1 file for use in PowerPoint. :> I would agree with pix that the algorythm used in 'save for web' is better then the standard 'save as...' and allows for trying out differnt compression settings, (for JPGs or GIFs) and resizing before the actual save. This can save alot of time and effort to find a setting that works best for the image at hand.